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</html>";s:4:"text";s:18252:"You cant even read yourself correctly, CB. Its time when it happens. Here I go, getting baited back in. Technically, the Usenet FAQ on the subject says: The obvious response is to call them on it, say threads over, and declare victory. When that is combined with explicit teaching of a superior human caste that controls and defines truth for such an entity, you have no rational ability to differentiate between that and any other political schema aimed at raw authoritarianism. My fingers are hurting. I give up. Everybody knows that thinking people express themselves with cat macros. Keep up the good work of proving those you hate completely right. What are you talking about? The Teaching of Clement The Books of annals of the kings of Judah For anything that I have said here, a Roman Catholic has said something the same or much worse, and I dont consider anything Ive said here to be bad. Neener, neener is taunting.   corrupt Bible versions (although he admits he doesn't support all of them). Keep your fallacy out of my doctrine if you dont want my logic in your Church. This is a little worse than that time you told that horribly inappropriate joke at worst place and time and everyone looked at you like you were Jack the Ripper or something. However, as we move on, other questions arise:  Could not the omnipotent almighty God, by his sheer willpower, communicate this charism of infallibility to an individual or organization, if he so wished? Even has a picture of a little troll doll and talks trash about Jimmy. Realize that the only place an omnipresent God cannot be is in the heart of those who refuse Him. That the pictures are offensive is completely immaterial to those few who come to his defense. My Reply But all well get to know is from what you tell us, and how you tell it. He has participated in outreach to various religious organizations nationwide and has even engaged in public debate against Atheism. Incidentally, there are protestant abuses, true, but these were uniformly folk who had absorbed the sacralist/jihadist template uncritically from Rome. Yet another illustration, nay a shining example of how Whites supporters start from their bias always, always slamming Catholics without considering that there might, just might possibly be an alternate explanation. Further, most laws we know of in advocacy and argumentation is made-up; yet, that doesnt mean they do not apply. Registrant Street3: Certainly you can make whatever analogy you want, but comparing Catholics to jihadists is not accurate. Youve been violating logic almost as often as you call upon it. Whites posted pictures should  be(have been) over (long ago), in my opinion, unless there is anyone here who would care to go further in the analysis than I. Just how reasonable, how even logical can this argument be when, in fact: Phoenix, AZ 85069 Good question, Esau. 5 days and counting and no one has interacted with Dr. Whites pointsCareBear, August 13, 2007 15  But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. Do they not apply, or are you choosing to ignore them in order to post another gotcha! by claiming that were not responding? Those to Whom they personally Handed down they Faith and their Authority?  Mary, Name Server:   by Dr. Hank Lindstrom explaining the simple Gospel and how you can be  Your style is like cotton candy, only without all that painful grit. Jimmy, when you take stupid things seriously, you yourself look stupid. If you are in a church that uses multiple Bible versions, get out of  Thats where protestantism is really you friend. Scandal (skandalon)  something that gives offense or causes revulsion, that which arouses opposition; the cause of ruin or destruction (Isaiah 8:14; Romans 9:33; 1 Peter 2:8) Given that Guardian shows up, posts a URL out of the blue, vanishes and four hours later White has an angry post up, it does stink. Ill take being familiar with logical fallacy to being familiar with Latin any day of the week. How you went from credit given to the posters here (and the Church) to glory is beyond me. I appears to me that Dr. White is simply a bit challenged by Dr. Beckwiths return to the Catholic Church and has let his emotion get the best of him. 2. Such humor detracts from any reasonable discussion, and if Jimmy thinks its useless to continue discussing things with White, thats his prerogative. then we can deal with it I have no doubt that many believe, truly believe, one way, and others another. Anti-Catholicism rots the mind. As I pointed out above, and you reitterated, we must be prepared to forgive at all times. May no one be less good for having come within my influence. apologetics might happen, but only as a byproduct of our chatting I know I dont always). Registrant Phone:+1.9512424988 I remember the picture Dave Armstrong put up a while back, a caricature of James White with blood running down his face, it was pretty disgusting and more personal. But what can you do?) James White is the director of Alpha and Omega Ministries, a Christian apologetics organization based in Phoenix, Arizona. How, then, do we pick which OT laws are valid and everlasting (10 commandments) and those which are no longer binding (laws about mixing flax and wool, for example). with Kevin Johnson, Jesus Shall Reign in Onward, Christian Soldiers, Whats With the Dudes at the Door? I hope that we can all pray for James, his walk with the Lord, and that he would embrace his Roman Catholic brothers and sisters in the Lord. I apologize for jumping the gun and mischaracterizing you. God is with us. They are not Christian. Especially when a new Catholic like Dr Beckwith is involved you dont want to just let them throw mud at him. He worked for many years as a hospital chaplain. Doing so is a good illustration of what happens when you hang on to something without considering the context. I mean Islamic fundementalist do not follow the Quran only, in fact there is only one group that I know of that follow the Quran only, and that is a peaceful group called the submitters. The Book of Gad the Seer[7]  Thank you, Constantine. The issues deserve to be considered on their own grounds, but this reprehensible action and even his bad debating skills should be mentioned when it rises to so inexcusable a level, remembering to do so with charity and perspective and an attempt at understanding of course. By that logic, I have a relationship of some form with Mr. Spock Ive been a fan for years, and have put up posts about him. Only in this self emptying is an abundant harvest. Have you even paid attention to the White v. Beckwith debate???   of the Bible, which redefines the word repent in Mark 1:15 to require  Wasnt there a guy who was good at this, whats his nameChick or something? This is a rather convient way to win a debate without ever having to defend a word you say If someone wishes to call me a disciple of White in any sense, he or she needs to realize that such is an ad hominem retort and not worth the electrons it took to display it, when it comes to the arena of critical dialogue. Name Server: Really Esau? Posted by: CareBear | Aug 10, 2007 11:30:58 AM And somehow, people go out of the woodwork to attack you for doing so? If only I was articulate as you. Or even the likes of Jack Chick. than to take a route never spoken of by Christ or the Bible, and just confess to God by yourself. Rhetoric and emotionalism on both sides. I do think you have a point. In response to the unbeliever I would say it was all God, through man. The answer to your/Whites laundry list is in the Church Fathers, but off the top of my head, I couldnt give you a specific reference. I had no wish to align with the whore of babylon, I didnt [then] get litugy, the singing and preaching generally sucked, they had no concept of evangelizing, and way too many inside didnt believe were amazed that I would. Important point. Stubble, When all this started Dr Beckwith was asking a pretty tough question. CareBear, *we dont care* what insanity you want to bring out. well let me just say, your doing fine in that department already. I come before You, in humble adoration and awe of Your power, might and majesty. That is why Inocencio wants to buy his action figure with a Cowboy hat! Theo no worries, were not very formal here. Anymore ad hominem onel iners or are you actually going to deal with the picture issue and refute me? The counterpart is stunned silent at first. nor anything disagreeing with T.U.L.I.P. Registrant City:Riverside The difference between a humorist and a comedian is that a humorist doesnt have to be funny all the time! all of which you clearly demonstrated by your assumptions that Catholic Answer was behind that website. I dont get what the big deal is with the pictures. I am certain I have confused you with my hopelessly mixed metaphors but that really is the best I could do at this hour. as being authors of particular books? After all, they ascribe infallibilityindeed, impeccabilityto White in all his dealings with Catholics, as this thread amply bears out. Thank you for the defense, Esau I spent the weekend with my folks, and didnt even see Aristotillean comment. Celebs Wiki. Did you have something of substance you wanted to say, or were you just going to back me up in a sarcastic manner. According to you, Carebear was proclaiming someones innocence. First tell us, what race are the Germans? Have you substaintiated a single accusation against me? I mean as far as the level of charity goes, things can only go up from here, am I wrong? The Revelation of Elias [3], Not to be confused with author and theologian, Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 04:23, reliable, independent, third-party sources, Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Calvinism debate cancelled, but serious discussion still resulted | Baptist Press", "James White | Resources from Ligonier Ministries", "James R. White, D.Min., Th.D. Or James White who was born several centuries later? White is one of these guys who spends half his time making fun of his opposite number among the Catholic apologists and responding to ad hominems (umm, ad hominis?) A more technical definition may be found in any number of treatises on moral theology. Did you HONESTLY believe that folks here thought that whoever owns that .org addy didnt know the address he was sending the traffic toward? ******************** Look at your initial comments in addition to the one above: The second that both sides have fielded very weak and odd arguments. I asked if you are a disciple and if so, who chose you. http://aomin.org/index.php?itemid=2185&catid=7 If Catholicism as a whole, then those who have stated that White is particularly antagonistic to White are correct. Again, my bad for not crying wolf when a dog barks A Mormon and an Evangelical in Conversation(1997), Created in the Image of Rome(March, 2002), Myth, Allegory, and Parable: the Presuppositions of John Dominic Crossan, and the Jesus Seminar and Their Importance to Reformed Baptist Theology and Apologetics (3:1, January, 2006), Textual Criticism and the Ministry of Preaching(2:2, July, 2005), Church History,   , 2014, New Testament Textual Criticism, Europisches Bibel Trainings Centrum, Berlin, 2013, Polemics, Midwest Center for Theological Studies, 2011, Atheism/Islam, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 2009-2010, Islam, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 2008, Current Issues in Apologetics, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 2005, 2007, Development of Patristic Theology, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 2004, Apologetics, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 2003-2004, 2009, Systematic Theology, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 1996, 1998, 2004, Christian Philosophy of Religion, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 1998-2003, Beginning Greek, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001, Greek Exegesis of Ephesians, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 2001, Beginning Hebrew, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 1996, 1998, 2000, Hebrew Exegesis, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 1997, 1999, Christology, Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary, 1997, Scholar in Residence, Grand Canyon University, 1995-1996, Apologetics, Grand Canyon University, 1996, Church History, Grand Canyon University, 1991-92, 95, Ph.D. The intention is often to provoke wry smiles and amusement rather than outright belly laughs. Take up and read. Instantly, with altered countenance, I began to think most intently whether children made use of any such chant in some king of game, but I could not recall hearing it anywhere. 3. As I dont feel like quoting the rest of the chapter, I am safe in resting my case here. - You accuse Catholic Answers for the url Thats not Ed youre seeing in the mirror. I admire your courage. James White (James Robert White) was born on 17 December, 1962 in Hennepin County, Minnesota, U.S., is an American theologian, born 1962. . Clear that up and you might score one on me. I think youre grasping at straws here bud, what in the world was the point of that last postto illustrate that I have levied the actions of Akin irresponsible and incorrect before I even posted? Did you not even remember your post???? No one less pure, less true, less kind, less noble for having been a fellow traveler in our journey toward eternal life), it would be harder to score points against us in this fashion. Its Akins Law that includes comparisons with Islamists. Please clarify your frustration for me. Since the Witnesses are heading back out and going door to door, lets be ready! Whites pictures is not mean-spirited at all. There are actually folks who judge a person innocent merely based on an assumption. bill912, Anymore ad hominem onel iners or are you actually going to deal with the picture issue and refute me? Furthermore, for somebody who, on the surface, professes a distaste for ad hominems; how interesting to note that the majority of his comments were, all in all, ad hominems! And yes, by making them, he IS crying uncle. Its as close to an admission of error as youll ever get with him. Tech Country:US I dont remember Dr. White saying that Dr. Beckwith was a liar. If you want a tattoo depicting both these Greek letters, then please read through this article. But if the slurs came so thick and fast that the atmosphere was just unbearable, then again Id have to end the encounter. Vols60, you are mis-characterizing the consensus. Donald Casadonte Esau, you contradict yourself. Whether you feel they are right or wrong, annoying or not, or even reasonable or not, the actions of people engaged in this discussion with White are simply incommensurate with the kind of actions undertaken by radical Muslims.   that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith  It is not a *relationship*. 7:10,11) And, yes, we would know that list through divine revelation, or guidance of the Holy Spirit.   Bible versions are, Westcott and  The History of Nathan the Prophet[8] Nice job sneaking in the hate reference (Islamists & Jews). And plenty of it. Was the New Testament Reliably Transmitted from its Authors? Yes, you do so insist, so Id appreciate it if you write an apology for saying you are owed an recantation. HehI just had a mental image of Akin and White in a debate, each posing questions to the other, and each responding with I answered that in my book insert title. and never actually responding beyond that. Yes, let us all pray that those who claim to be Catholic will be obedient to the Magisterium instead of making up what they mistakenly believe to be the teachings of the Church. It just means his character doesnt always reflect Christ (whose does? I will do us all the honor of believing that it is truly Gods will that we wish to do, On Earth as it IS in Heaven. A more important question, from my perspective,  is when do you give up? Seriously, its like someone googled logical fallacies and just started sprinkling them into their accusations.  nothing wrong with that Pray for me! Of course, this is no surprise.  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I would be doing a disservice to my collegues who have spent their lives trying to understand humor and its effects if I did not speak for at least part of the humor community. I think were even. He wasnt talking to me. It is appropriate for fomenting the emotions, certainly, but the issues at hand call for something a great deal more rational. Is everything in Foxes book of martyrs a mere fabrication? But its rather annoying when com-boxers ask Why has no one addressed my argument? How do you manipulate the resurrected Christ? Humbly, I remain your servant, your brother and your fellow seeker of Gods mercy, What knowledge of the canon was established? With all this in mind, one has to question what benefit a doctorate degree was for the poor fellow. Whether or not we have a responsibility to forgive someone who has not repented, I think we should still forgive them in the sense of wishing them well and seeking no revenge. 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